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Please pray for the souls of those lost on 9-11-01 and for their families to find peace

Please pray for those young men and women lost in the Virginia Tech Massacre - Pray for their fasmilies to find peace, and for our nation to rediscover its sanity and its faith in the Almighty God.

 

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For information on 9-11 see:  www.Visibility911.com, www.911PodCasts.com, www.nyccan.org, and  www.AE911Truth.org


 

        Since this project is one of the most hilarious things I've ever done, perhaps a bit of an introduction is in order. First of all, this project came to ME – I didn't actively seek to do this – and I'm thankful that it DID "fall in my lap" so-to-speak, because the telephone conversation that you have access to on this page, replete and resplendent with Tourette's Syndrome profanity, is probably one of the most ironically hilarious things you'll hear on the Internet. I must warn the prudish – you will hear more "F"-words in this recording in 52 minutes than you're likely to hear from a bar full of "drunken sailors" in a year. From the very first moment I started speaking with "John", I came completely out of character. Although you may find this gut-splittingly funny, the underlying realization is that there a a lot more people like John than one might imagine.... and that's a scary thought!

 

        I don't care WHAT your point-of-view is; if you are in a discussion with someone, isn't the purpose of ANY discussion to learn something, or to analyze something from another perspective? John refuses to listen to the facts about 9-11-2001. He has his ideas and his paradigms. My good friend who listened to the recordings as I was processing them to post here commented, "He {John} sounds like a beach-bum surfer dude right out of the Wayne's World movie". No matter what you PERSONALLY believe about the events of 9-11, you should – if you're an adult that can handle the profanity – download this conversation and listen to it. It is NOT COPYRIGHTED, so please feel free to make copies and pass them around. I am entertaining thoughts of putting this on MySpace and iTunes.

 


 

       Maybe I should warn the reader here.... there are assholes among us. They are real. They believe whatever they see on the news, and they "debate" by trying to talk over you, and insisting that they know what they know because "I was there, dude". They refuse to accept empirical fact as fact, and as a result, they fail to move on to the next phase of a logical analysis, fail to ask the questions that are begging, and the end-result is that THEY HAVE NO CLUE. Having no valid argument to support their beliefs, they resort to personal insults because they do not have the mental capacity to discern the TRUTH for themselves. In such a case, calling someone "an asshole" is not without a basis in fact, and is therefore wholly warranted.

 

 

       I have done hundreds of essays on critical issues on my other Web sites. In all of them, I have endeavored to support my position with irrefutable evidence, and I always cite my sources so the reader knows where the information came from, and can check it for him / her self. In fact, this article has links you should follow if you have any doubts about what I say here.

 

       People without a military intelligence background as I have, fail to understand that Ocam's Razor does not apply when it comes to covert operations – these operations are purposely designed to be full of "rabbit trails" and "wild goose chases" which renders the facts unfathomable to the casual observer. In addition, the government has control of the media – if you want to believe that or not, it is irrelevant to the fact – THE MEDIA IS GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED – and therefore the government has indirect but effective control over the "conclusions" that most people come to when presented with these manipulated data. It's hard to argue with one's own conclusions, but that is precisely what you must do if you ever want to make "sense" of international politics, war, and anything to do with the government.

 

      Things are NOT what they "appear to be"; your perceptions are being manipulated by false data and propaganda, and if you believe the government's "official" 9-11 story, or believe that "The 9-11 Omission Report" is anything but a cover-up and a bullshit story from cover-to-cover, let me tell you that your world... the way you see the world... is what Scientology calls "an apparency"; something that appears to be.... but is actually NOT what it appears to be. You are being LIED TO.... you are falling for classic MK-Ultra Mind Control techniques right out of the Russian Brainwashing Manual of Psychopolitics... and this country is fast becoming a Techno-Nazi Dictatorship... believe it, because it is TRUE!!

 

       On Tuesday, August 7, 2007, I received an email from John, challenging my views – written on several of my Web sites (I assume he was looking at www.Net4TruthUSA.com) – and at first, the writer did not specify what, precisely it was that he disagreed with, but he opened his email with an insult to my intellect, and that started this whole thing rolling.  In the subsequent emails and reproduced correspondence, I have identified the other party as "John" – because the communication (after laborious name-calling) ended on a somewhat friendlier note than it began (see end of this page).

 

     There was a phone number in the email message, so I called. The conversation that ensued is typical of a conversation that one would have with someone who is dead-set in his paradigms, and will believe what he wants to believe – even in the face of physical evidence. In a courtroom, such a person would quickly be excluded in the jury selection phase, because of outright refusal to hear another point-of-view – even when that point-of-view presents empirical evidence that raises serious questions about the case at bar.

 

       We did agree on ONE thing though.... George W. Bush should be impeached. As for Osama bin Forgotten... that's another story altogether.

 

        This man, believes that "terrorists" flew the planes that hit WTC 1&2, and refuses to ask the question that logically arises when 7 of the 19 so-called "hijackers" the FBI said were responsible, turn up ALIVE! He INSISTS that there was plane wreckage for flight 93 and the "plane" that hit the Pentagon, when the FACT of the matter is that THERE WERE NO ENGINES, LANDING GEAR, or ANY SIGN of an aircraft at EITHER site; Flight 93's wreckage was scattered over 8 square miles – inconsistent with a plane crash, but fully what one would expect if the "plane" was shot from the sky. The TV documentary "Flight 93" is TOTAL BULLSHIT... PURE HOLLYWOOD... and it has NOTHING to do with what REALLY happened.

 

        Efforts to get him to ask questions – or to challenge his own beliefs (obviously based on the mainstream news media) – when presented with the fact that the BBC reported that building #7 collapsed twenty-two minutes before it was demolished (in an obvious, classic controlled demolition); and you can watch the video of the BBC reporter  if you think it's bullshit – My efforts to get John to ask himself the logical questions.... FAILED.

 

       Even presented with the fact that Larry Silverstein_admitted that they_blew_up_building_7 on national TV; that he consulted with "the fire department" and they "PULLED" the building, failed to get John to become suspicious and ask the obvious questions.... By his own admission on the tape, even after several attempts to try to explain WHY the BBC reporting that WTC #7 had collapsed when it was still standing at the time of the report was suspicious at the very least, he admitted "it went right over my head". He finally rationalized his inability to formulate the question by calling it "a time issue". I didn't get that, John... what do you mean? Time travel? Like Star Trek? What the FUCK is a "time issue"?

 

      The fact is that WTC was a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. If you hesitate to believe it, then look at these two video clips and tell ME what your "lying eyes" tell you.

 

       Obviously, John has not seen the video documentaries and hasn't read the declassified Northwoods Document, hasn't listened to the Radio Program I did with Dr. Stan Monteith on Operation Phoenix, or read the book the CIA took off the shelves in 1973 titled "The Plot To Seize The White House". It is doubtful that even if I showed them to him, that he would "get it".

 

         John says he will be in New York in a few weeks. I must admit, he makes a wonderful "devil's advocate", and he provided worthwhile fodder to put here for a good laugh... but it's not funny. I welcome the on-camera debate he says he wants to do with me, but it's doubtful that it will ever materialize. Perhaps he is not REALLY an asshole at all, but just misinformed and brainwashed by the mainstream media like half the people in this country – who WANT so badly to TRUST their government, and can't bring themselves to believe that EVIL PEOPLE IN POLITICAL OFFICE are not above murdering innocent civilians to rally support for an unjust, immoral, and criminal war-crimes war.... and it is NOT like it didn't happen before in our own history; i.e.: Pearl Harbor, The Tuskegee Experiments, Agent Orange, USS Liberty, USS Cole, Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Paper Clip, Operation Gladio, Operation Phoenix, and an interminable litany of others too tedious to mention.

 

     Those who fail to learn from their history, are destined to repeat it. We are repeating the Reichstag Fire right now. You can choose NOT to believe it if you want to; you can choose to rationalize that planes just vaporize into their constituent molecules when they hit buildings; you can believe that the Pentagon has 200 cameras at the periphery of the building and NOT ONE of them caught a clear image of a "plane" hitting the Pentagon; you can believe that NORAD's war-games drills that day were just a "coincidence", and that "jet fuel" which burns at a top temperature of 1,100 degrees F. when fed pure oxygen, melted forty-seven 4-foot thick, asbestos-coated steel columns rated at 2,800 degrees F – and melted them all simultaneously; you can BELIEVE whatever you choose – this is America, and you have the RIGHT to believe in the Tooth Fairy or Peter Pan if you choose to do so... but the EVIDENCE... the physical, touchable, empirical evidence, and the violation of the laws of physics that would have to have occurred for the "official" government account of 9-11 to be true,  DEMANDS that you ask the logical questions.... and be prepared for the answers that might shatter the cognitive "bubble" you may be presently living in.

 

 

And..... John.... Not-for-nuthin.... but...
STOP SMOKIN' THAT SHIT – IT'S FUCKIN' UP YOUR BRAIN!!!
And if you're not smokin' "The Chronic", perhaps it's exposure to BushCronium that's the problem.

 

 

Got Pot?  If you're gonna browse this site any further, perhaps a toke or two wouldn't hurt.

 

Click here and sign the petition to STOP Bush's war crimes in the Middle-East

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RECORDED PHONE CALL

       According to John, I'm "IN SOME SHIT ALREADY" by recording this phone call. Tell you what... get your cousin the lawyer to FUCKING SUE ME.... Go ahead. File your Notice of Intent. You are SO full of shit!!!

 

      I must warn you: The language in the audio recording is not suitable for children.... but if you live in America; it's not like they haven't heard it before on TV. In the second part of the recording, the beginning 10 seconds is missing because he called me back within moments after he hung up on me the FIRST time, and I had switched off my recorder.

 

 Download Phone Conversation (MP3)

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Right) click and click "save target as" to save a copy of the recording to your drive.

(23.6Mb in MP3 format)

 

 

AUDIO CLIPS FROM CONVERSATION
 

John gives consent to post these recordings
Who are the "terrorists"?

Light your barbeque with JET FUEL
Where's the plane? #1

Where's the plane? #2
John threatens me
When the Gestapo knocks on your door
Believe the bullshit if you want to
Why do you call me "an asshole"?
 

 

 

        The following is his latest email, after I informed John that I was posting the telephone conversation here, and my response. Notice that because he lacks the facts to back up his position, he (again) resorts to personal insults (he started it in his first email, and I just chose to operate on his level), and when I called him on one of the statements he made, he threatens to "break my legs". As for his knowledge of the law, it also leaves a lot to be desired, because recording a phone conversation is legal anywhere in the USA - as long as ONE party of the conversation is aware that it is being recorded – I can't – according to him – record the phone call because I'm in New York, and I am "IN SOME SHIT ALREADY", but he CAN legally make recordings of phone conversations, because he's in OHIO, and OHIO is different. Last time I checked, Ohio and New York were still in the USA, and still (legally) under the US Constitution. Recording and wiretapping (recording a phone call is NOT a wiretap) falls under the Communications & Wiretap Act, and recording a phone call is NOT a wiretap (but it IS admissible in court as evidence). Different States have different privacy laws, but all are more-or-less similar. If anyone has any doubt about what I'm saying here, or doesn't – like John here – trust me as a "source", then go read the law for yourself. This man is so full of shit and he is BEYOND CLUELESS!!!

 

        Perhaps that comes from sitting on a couch with a remote control, two six-packs, and filling his inebriated brain with MINDLESS FOOTBALL GAMES – Precisely what the despots in Washington want you to do – while they slowly rip your Civil Liberties right out from under you.... Yeah, I looked at his Web site. I'm FUCKIN' IMPRESSED!!! TYPICAL "Joe Six-Pak".

 

 

His email:

In a message dated 8/7/2007 2:02:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, John writes:

Feel free {to post the recorded conversation}. Anyone who would listen has the same problems as you, so you all belong together anyway. And make sure you don't edit it {The beginning of the recording where I dial the number and use his last name was deleted.} and also you should include our second conversation as well. JUST A LITTLE WARNING. Any manufacturing of our conversation by yourself WILL RESULT IN LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU. I HAVE BOTH CONVERSATIONS RECORDED AS WELL. DO NOT TRY TO MANIPULATE ANYTHING AS YOU HAVE TRIED TO MANIPULATE THE FACTS ABOUT 9/11. My cousin is a lawyer in NYC and one of my best friends is a lawyer in NJ. Not to mention my uncle and cousin are both NY State policeman. Did you know that in NY you have to ask permission BEFORE RECORDING A CONVERSATION. OF COURSE NOT, SO AS YOU CAN SEE YOU ARE IN SOME SHIT ALREADY. I don't have the same problem being in Ohio. Again, feel free to post what you like but Dave, make sure it is accurate, because you will pay the price if you try to manipulate anything. Good luck trying to find a brain.

 
John

<<< end of email >>>

MY RESPONSE:

See: video documentaries to download PROOF of what I say is true. Talk to me after you LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. 

Tell you what – Just to show you I hold no grudges, attached is a PDF copy of my book "The Lie Detection Manual".

Read it – maybe we are "on the same page" and letting minor shit get in the way of our agreeing on the FACTS.

I will post the telephone conversation in its entirety, and let people decide WHO has the CLOSED MIND.... They will be available on www.AssholesAmongUS.com/willinglyignorant.htm  in about an hour from now. meanwhile, LOOK AT THE VIDEOS from the link above, and THEN tell me it's all BULLSHIT. You should get my book Land of Childhood's Fears – now THAT"S an eye-opener!!! If you DO show up for an in-person debate, I don't want to get into any more PERSONAL insults – STICK TO THE FACTS YOU CAN EMPIRICALLY PROVE.

Please don't try to impress me with the "my cousin is a lawyer" crap. I was tutored PERSONALLY by Jerry The Jew.... I'll run RINGS around your legal bullshit and flip you like a pancake at I-Hop's.

"The danger with the use of circumstantial evidence is that of logical gaps; subjective, inferential links of low probability or insufficient degree" – People vs. Cleague 22 NY2d 363, 367, 292

 

“The workability of a postulate is established by the degree to which it explains existing phenomena [which is] already known; by the degree that it predicts new phenomena which when looked for, will be found to exist, and by the degree that it does not require that phenomena which do not exist in fact, be called into existence for its explanation.”   – Scientology Logic #19

 

The government's "Official" story FAILS those two Axioms MISERABLY.
It would NEVER "fly" in a court of law.
However, VIDEOS OF A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION – as is CLEARLY VISIBLE in several of the documentaries linked to – is cause for INDICTMENT. Ask your lawyer cousin if a District Attorney couldn't indict Larry Silverstein just on the admission he made to the press. Then ask yourself WHY that son of a bitch isn't sharing a cell with "Bubba" up in Sing-Sing!

 

<<< end of email >>>

What Is Scientology - Id at 636 - L. Ron Hubbard ISBN# 1-57318-122-6

 

 

THIS IS ANOTHER email from John – I have added my comments within the text in brackets:

 

First of all, who needs to believe anything which was said by anybody! People were there I have known my whole life. I WAS ON THE PHONE {he said it was an office phone; not a cell phone} WITH MY FRIEND WHEN THE 2ND PLANE HIT!!!! I know from EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCES OF OTHER PEOPLE most everything about that unfortunate day on 9/11. People can manipulate videos, tapes, pictures, anything to make something look any why they want and to support any dumbass theory they want to put up a charade about. {sure... a hundred people who didn't know each other manipulated videos to show 'squibbs' coming out of BOTH towers AHEAD of the explosions so they could blame George Bush}. Your theories simply don't make common {"common" – 80% of people in a Zogby poll said 9-11 was "an inside job"} sense, and thanks for offering your "helpful" videos and PDF files, but it's all really quite funny {John finds the premeditated murder of 3,000 people 'funny' – NOTICE I ain't laughing!}. It's amazing how gullible people can be {yep! it sure is!}. I respect people from the east coast because generally I have found that they seem to have a bit more brains than most, but you just go to show there are always exceptions. You are part of what I like to call the "exaggerationists". You will take any side of view that you feel you want to promote {I would like to BELIEVE that Osama bin Forgotten was behind 9-11, but the EVIDENCE goes against it}, and then just go to the extreme to try to get people to see that point of view, no matter how ridiculous and absurd the accusations become.

Hey, I don't like Bush either, but Dave, be reasonable man {'reason' in this man's view, apparently means I have to IGNORE the facts and smoke what he's smoking}. Use your brain, you know, common sense. All the crap you have sent me about 9/11 is all someone's made up story. Whether it be Larry Sliverstein or whoever, as I said, the "theories" don't make sense. EVERYONE COULD SEE THE PLANES FLY INTO THE BUILDINGS. PLANES HAVE GASOLINE {NO, John! Planes have JP-4, which is KEROSENE – the same shit you light your barbeque with. When was the last time your barbeque grill MELTED when you lit the charcoal? – He seems to forget that while (he says) Asbestos-coated steel MELTED, people who were ON THE FLOORS where the planes crashed, were STANDING IN THE WINDOWS. Why didn't the PEOPLE melt? Huh??}. WHEN THE PLANES CRASHED IT STARTED A FIRE {big deal... a fire... which smoldered and WENT OUT before the towers collapsed}. GEE, GASOLINE {KEROSENE} AND FIRE.....YOU DO THE MATH {2+2=7 according to you}.

Sorry, Dave. But I can't believe you are this friggin gullible man {I'm not the one who is gullible. You are the one who blew off all the evidence I sent you as someone's made-up story... why? You want to believe what you want to believe. You already made up your mind, so why should anyone trouble you with the FACTS?}.

The sad thing is there are other people that believe the same crap because of idiots like yourself who have to look for crap to scream CONSPIRACY rather than use your common sense and the experience of PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE {Most of the people who "were there" are DEAD. There are survivors who escaped who were not allowed to testify – but who have told their stories, and back up everything I have said}.

Again, I have to say how shocked I am as I actually think you kind of make a good point about some stuff on the rest of your website, but again it seems like you take these points to a level which becomes fantasy instead of reality {again, he has no counter-argument}. Like I said, common sense has to come in somewhere dude {Yeah? start by looking at the FACTS instead of talking out your ass}.  If I have time I'll check myself out later {he's going to psycho-analyze himself – may I suggest a bit of Dianetics auditing?}, as I can imagine it might actually be kind of funny.

BUT I STILL INTEND ON SUING YOU {Please! I'm laughing so hard my fuckin' kidneys can't take it! Mercy! mercy!} FOR TAPING ME WITHOUT PERMISSION, SO I'LL BE IN TOUCH SOON {I think you need to go to your county courthouse and look up the Wiretap act. I can tape anyone I want to tape. When you make an ASSHOLE of yourself, you become fair game – send your cousin the lawyer over with the papers}.

John

<<< end of email >>>

 

He is what Lionel –  the New York Radio Talk Show host called
"diagonally-parked in a parallel universe"
He is probably a victim of BushCronium poisoning

 

      There was a subsequent phone conversation after I posted this (the third conversation on the recording), in which John and I agreed to cease the hostilities, and we "agreed to disagree" on some things, but we do have more-or-less the same opinion of Grorge "Dubya" – he should be IMPEACHED! John said  It would be wonderful if I could also post the (3rd) conversation on the Web site" as well. I don't think that anyone can ever influence John's tightly-held beliefs, because he just (by his own admission) will NOT entertain any other point-of-view, or even look at any evidence that might shatter the little "neat package" fantasy world he lives in, where everything is as simple as it looks on the surface, and OUR government is comprised of ANGELS who wouldn't THINK of harming their own citizens in such a sinister PLOT – the shit he says I MADE UP – No, not the US-of-A!! – Better go read the Northwoods Document before you say that, John! I certainly hope we can meet one day for a "Podcast interview", just as he offered in the beginning. We shall see.

 

      As an informational note here, I have spent the better part of the day putting this one page together. I certainly hadn't PLANNED this; I was working on another project when I got his first email... but I admit, it WAS interesting. Everything is out in the open here; and although the foul language is atrocious in the recorded conversation (I apologize – but you were warned); it serves to illustrate that people (including me) are very passionate about their beliefs.... even people who believe in government-concocted lies, bullshit stories, and CIA-manipulated media coverage. The government's "official" account of the events of 9-11 are by definition – a "conspiracy theory". I fully understand the need for people to feel that their government is operating in their best interests, and that the PEOPLE have control over the politicians they elect – or think they elect – to office. I'm sorry to burst your bubble people, but it is my considered opinion; and I say it with great trepidation, but we haven't had a REAL president in this country since JFK was murdered. Believe what you will; it's a free country (last time I checked). Tomorrow, when I wake up, that situation may change. I'm not the ONLY one saying it. If I'm an asshole, then I'm gonna' do my damned-est to be a FREE asshole.... eternal vigilance... that is the price we pay for what is left of our liberty. If we let any more of it go, we will get the government we deserve.

 

"Those who will trade their liberty for security will have neither liberty nor security."

(Who the hell is it that said that?)
 


      On August 8th I get another email from John demanding "compensation" for the use of the recording on this Web site. Since this is probably one of the most hilarious pieces I've ever done, I told him that I'd give him a few incoming links from my other sites from wherever pages he thought were appropriate. I also offered to use my SEO software to register his Web site with the search engines. I then get back a message that he's going to SUE ME for posting this recording without his permission. If you'll notice, at the bottom of each page of this Web site – it states CLEARLY that phone calls to me MAY be recorded. I record my OUTGOING calls as well, when I think I may have need of a record of the call. It's all PERFECTLY LEGAL, and falls under the "one party consent" statute, and you can Look it up if you want to, but here is the synopsis:


       "Federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call. A majority of the states and territories have adopted wiretapping statutes based on the federal law, although most also have extended the law to cover in-person conversations. Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so. These laws are referred to as "one-party consent" statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it".

 

    I am the consenting party, John. Besides, since you haven't been identified other than my calling you by your first name (The beginning of the recording where I dial your number, and where I use your surname has been deleted from the recording), there is no "injury" you could claim.... except maybe I hurt your feelings for calling you "an asshole".... I apologize, John.... there, there. And since you gave me your permission to begin with, you haven't got a legal leg to stand on. And not-for-nothing, John, making threats to people over the phone is a class E felony in Ohio and in New York.... look it up. You might want to consider that before you start something that will call the recordings into evidence in a court of law.

 

Sorry, John, THE RECORDING STAYS.
LIVE WITH IT!!
BTW: This is the most hilarious shit I ever did!

 

 

      Why is the simple, empirical TRUTH a magnet for every ASSHOLE on the planet? I sent John the following:

 

II I    I am listening to a CD I made of our phone calls. In the SECOND conversation, I talk about BUILDING #7 – OBVIOUSLY, you thought I was talking about one of the Trade Towers.... that is why you disagreed and misunderstood when I said THERE WAS NO PLANE THAT HIT THE BUILDING. Building 7 was the 47-story office building 1-1/2 blocks away from the WTC towers... it fell at about 5:45PM that night. Google "WTC Building 7" and see or go to www.prisonplanet.tv

Page on the site updated with links. 
If Jozie is home tonight at 9PM I'll have him speak with you.

 

<<< end of email >>>


      This is the rambling piece of idiocy I received as a response from this pea-brain imbecile:
      I put my comments in the text in this color:
{brackets}

 

    Once again, your attitude only goes to show the true piece of shit that you are {from his first email he can't avoid calling people names}. I can't wait to see you in person {Yeah, sure! FLY OUT HERE JOHN! – I'll meet you at JFK}, but please do me a favor. Take a breath mint so I don't have to smell your shit breath from your head being so far up your ass {isn't he fuckin' innovative and creative with the insults? A real talent, isn't he?}. You just started a war {I'm a Vietnam Vet – I'll show you a WAR, asshole!} you don't want fuckhead. I was being nice, now you will deal with the consequences {oooohhh! I'm fuckin' trembling!}. YOU MADE YOUR OWN GRAVE FUCKHEAD {is that another THREAT?}.

ANY FURTHER CONTACT WILL BE CONSIDERED SPAM AND WILL BE REPORTED AS SO {"reported" to WHO, your SPAM filter?}. Any further phone calls will be considered harrassment {doesn't even know how to spell "harassment" and disregards his spell-checker} and reported as such {SUE ME, DIPSHIT!!! – from the jail cell where you'll be when I have you ARRESTED for making threats}.

I don't have time {to} be dealing with scammers who call themselves WebPastor and have a pea for a brain and can only play hardass by email and by phone, because you sure as hell wouldn't be giving me your sorry excuse for an attitude if I were in your face {YOU WANT TO BET?}. THAT IS A GUARANTEE!!! Keep my stuff {it's MY STUFF, John!} on your website, it doesn't bother me {we SEE how much it doesn't bother you, don't we?}. People will actually see how much of an ass you really are and how much of an ass they themselves are {good show, John! Insult the audience. Everybody's an asshole except you.}, I don't know {no, you don't – OBVIOUSLY}.

You are nothing more than an unthinking, angry, stupid, and disgusting excuse for a human being and therefore I am no longer going to let you use me to promote {I don't need your sorry ass to promote a fuckin' thing!} your dumbass bullshit. As I stated this does not require a response. You need to do what you need to do and I will do what I need to do and we will see what happens.

I guarantee you, WebPastor Dave {I run the ministry at www.Net4TruthUSA.com}, you don't know me. And by the time I am done you will wish you hadn't. {ooohhh! is that ANOTHER THREAT? – How many "counts" is that now?} As I stated, I tried to be reasonable with you, but as I stated in our last phone conversation, talking with you is like talking to a stump. Try and use your brain for good in the future, instead of trying to scam people {what scam is that? did I try to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge or something?}, and maybe things will get better for you {it's as good for me as it gets – I think}. As I said, I have better things to do than spend my time sparring with an idiot who is not equipped with even the common sense to carry on a civil conversation  {I guess "civil" to you means agreeing with your MK-Ultra induced dementia}. It will take me some time to get around too {I ain't holding my breath}, but as I said, you will have brought any consequences for your own actions on yourself, and you seem to welcome them, so it shouldn't be much of a problem for you {no, not when I'm dealing with a first-class bullshit artist "cell-gangsta'" like you}. You really shouldn't be so rude to people you don't really know anything about {you really shouldn't make Threats on the phone, especially when you know it is being recorded; you could end up doing time}. Could come back to bite you in the ass {what is that? "count" seven on the threats?}. Again, you made your feelings known. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND ANY FURTHER AND GET YOURSELF IN ANY DEEPER THAN YOU ALREADY HAVE {I'm fuckin' scared, John! Can't you tell?}. GOODBYE AND TRY NOT TO BE SUCH A LOSER FOR THE REST OF YOUR DAYS HERE.

<<< end of email >>>

        People who don't have BRAINS enough to argue a point with EVIDENCE, or with a coherent bit of reasoning, usually resort to threats. Hey John! Go ahead and get "in my face", "duuuude" – I GOT SOMETHIN' FOR YA – You can take that to the bank. I should really have this asshole arrested and hauled in for making threats, but he's just a bunch of hot air, as is evident in the 52 minutes of phone conversations where he couldn't stop his incoherent "surfer-dude" babbling for 60 seconds to listen to what I was saying, and where he refused to even look at the video links I sent him. Listen to it – it's really PATHETIC. I'm just sorry I couldn't get through; In retrospect, it is almost as if he were RETARDED or something.... brain-dead or some shit. He has enough wit to throw the names and the epithets around, though... a real PRO. A professional bullshit artist, and a consummate imbecile; the "Joe six-pack" of the new Techno-Nazi Orwellian America – the epitome' of and the creme'-de-la-creme' of

FLAMING, GAPING ASSHOLES!


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My email response was simply:

Blah, Blah, Blah!

I get this back in response to my eariler email clarifying the issue with Building #7:

OK. I'll accept that. You can understand my attitude with you then I would hope. I still have a lot of crap to do right now though as I haven't finished my Raiders preview yet and still have a lot more stuff to do after that. Everything sucks even worse when you have no income, too. Anyway, 2 of the fantasy football leagues I am in are total of $45000 to the winner, not to mention I have my own website with Blog so I just have a lot of work to do right now, and not a lot of time, so I'll try to check your stuff out by tomorrow then. Glad to see it was a misunderstanding but I am still a little shaky on the theory, so we'll see. I'll let you know as soon as I can catch up on my work then. Probably by tomorrow.

<<< end of email >>>

       What? No insults? This thing is getting hard to call. Is there any HOPE that I can FINALLY have a decent conversation and at least have John LOOK at what I sent him.... and THEN decide what he believes? With this last email, I feel God has blessed me. He has, because of His infinite mercy (and probably my endless "patience of Job" {well, it was fun, too, I won't lie}) "increased my coast" as it says in the prayer of Jabez.

As the one of the songs in my "Make a Jouful Sound" (download it free) collection goes:

"Who am I, that thou shouldst love me?..... who am I, that you'd give yourself for me?.... and who am I?, and what have I done... that you love me?"

       It may seem a dichotomy; a non-sequitur; an inconsistency for someone like me to even be involved with a Web site like this.... but I'm only following the perfect example; Jesus Christ dined with the Publicans, and associated with prostitutes, thieves, murderers, and the veritable scum of the Earth. I thank God every day that I have mere ASSHOLES to contend with.... what I'm afraid of is that if I get "good" at dealing with the assholes, I might be "promoted" to a more difficult job; God forbid I should be called to minister to politicians!

 

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John gives consent to post these recordings
Who are the "terrorists"?

Light your barbeque with JET FUEL
Where's the plane? #1

Where's the plane? #2
John threatens me
When the Gestapo knocks on your door
Believe the bullshit if you want to
Why do you call me "an asshole"?
 


 

There is still ONE QUESTION, John....

Pardon me for bustin' your balls, but....
not-for-nuthin...

WHERE'S THE PLANE?
 

{God said to Job}
"Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?" – Job 38:2 – KJV

September 11 News.com - Flight 93 - The story of courage and heroism by the passengers of Flight 93 on the morning of September 11, 2001. September 11 News.com - Flight 93 - The story of courage and heroism by the passengers of Flight 93 on the morning of September 11, 2001.

 
This is the alleged "crash scene" of Flight 93
No bodies, no luggage, no wings, no landing gear, no engines....

Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Niente'. Bupkis. Cocka-moo.

see: www.september11news.com/Flight93.htm
 

 

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This is my (Dave's) unscripted discussion of the banned book "Plot to Seize The White House", 9-11, Abuse of Veterans, and the war in Iraq.
 

 

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